Sub Club Podcast: The Past, Present, and Future of Building on Apple.

Another interview with John Gruber about the history of developer relations with Apple.

I thought this was a great episode, and it brought back some memories. I can remember when Apple would call you up and let you know early bird pricing for WWDC was about to go away. How quaint that seems now. (I even went to WWDC on their dime back in the late 90s when I was working for Mizzou).

I still get on well with the folks in Apple Developer relations, and I guess I always have. Maybe because I've been developing on the Mac for so long, and I tend to keep a cool head about things? Of course there's always ups and downs, but I try to remember there are very different divisions in Apple, with different opinions on how things should be. "Apple" isn't really a single entity anymore, at least from my perspective.